Are speedos a gateway to gay?

[DaveSpeedoEvans]

G'day guys,

I wrote about this today on my blog www.AussieSpeedoGuy.org and thought I'd share it here on this forum.

Here is a question for you guys…. are speedos a gateway to gay?

I personally thing yes.

My first gay experiences all involved speedos and I’m pretty sure if I didn’t have a speedo fetish I wouldn’t have been horny enough to take the one great leap… and put a penis in my mouth. I’m not saying that everyone who loves speedos is gay or even bisexual, but it is speedos which turns me on to a guy.

Seriously, if I see a guy in dork shorts I won’t think much about it. But if a guy is wearing speedos, I’m thinking sex.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Dave

[diveguy]

With all due respect, Dave, I believe that gay is a gateway to gay. I believe that people are born the way they are. There may be some environmental factors that help encourage that orientation to develop in a kid's formative years, but basically, it's baked into the pie from day one. I LOVE speedos, but I have NO desire to suck cock. My motivations for loving them have nothing to do with a sexual attraction to the wearer, although for whatever reason, my love of them is based upon a deeply rooted fetish that is indeed sexual. But in a different way than how a gay guy gets turned on by speedos.

My swimsuit fetish also embraces my love of seeing the ladies in swimsuits. That attraction, however, is most definitely sexual. I love how sexy swimsuits highlights and emphasizes the parts on a woman that get covered up. I love equally the skin that's left exposed. It for sure brings about a strong sexual attraction, and the obvious reason is that I'm a man, and men are sexually hardwired, and that's why we love seeing the objects of our desires (women in my case) naked or in sexy attire.

Gay men are the same as straight men in that we all are motivated by the same hardwired sexual desires. Gay guys just simply are attracted to other guys and how can this not be the reason that gay guys love seeing other men in speedos, just as straight guys love seeing the ladies in skimpy bikinis?

I imagine that your lack of being turned on when a guy is wearing a hideous pair of boardshorts is the same as my lack of being turned on when an otherwise good looking woman is wearing baggy sweatpants and non-form fitting sweatshirts. It just ain't sexy, man!

[Scottiebum]

No.

Diveguy has expressed my thoughts far more eloquently than I could myself (^).

I am comfortable enough to be able to look at a guy in speedos and admire him and/or his suit, just as I would do with a female, but there is no way it makes me want to get intimate with him. They are clothes (however small) and do not change your sexuality.

[swimsuitcouplesc]

I agree with the above two sentiments, Dave, no speedos aren't a gateway to gay if one is not gay or bi already. Diveguy has expressed this very well. While speedos have several functions for me - swimwear for fitness swimming, swimwear for the beach, etc, they are decidedly a sexual thing too. But the sexual aspect of speedos has little to do with other people wearing them - that can certainly provide encouragement at places like public beaches - for me, it has more to do with how it feels to wear them. The snugness of the suit on my body, the silky feel of the fabric, and the feel of all the exposed skin. It's thrilling in an exhibitionist sense. I certainly hope that women like to look at me in my speedo the way that I like to look at them in their swimsuits.

[Thom]

I think it's fair to say that for gay guys, speedos could be a gateway to gay sex. But for straight guys, they aren't, although they might be a gateway to straight sex. When I was twenty or so, I was wearing them on a beach in Bermuda when a French lady (herself in a black bikini) struck up an acquaintance. But she was older and I was stupid. American women seem to either love them or hate them. But that's another area for discussion.

[Thom]

...for me, it has more to do with how it feels to wear them. The snugness of the suit on my body, the silky feel of the fabric, and the feel of all the exposed skin. It's thrilling in an exhibitionist sense. I certainly hope that women like to look at me in my speedo the way that I like to look at them in their swimsuits.

I feel the same way. I feel sensual wearing them. They used to arouse me as a kid, though I didn't JO in them and never have. After a swim in the ocean, I feel a certain exhibitionistic confidence as I emerge from the surf. "Here's me in my speedos, peeps." (In the same way, cowboy boots get my testosterone attitude going, but that's for a different forum). Guys should be proud of their bodies, and in a sexual way.

[rmf]

Dave - I am sure you would have guessed you would get a lot of response from the straight guys on the site but I am surprised there hasn't been more gay guys speaking up...... here is the first thing that came to my mind... Using your logic, a women wearing a string bikini or thong is a gateway for lesbian for her. It really doesn't make sense nor could it.

I think what you really might be trying to say is, if you are ALREADY gay, bixsexual or have the desire to experiment but maybe have not done so in the past, seeing a good looking guy in speedos might be enough for you to want to act on the desire. While I think it may still be a stretch, it is based simply on a visual thing that turns another person on on. That statement that works for both males and females. For example, if a women sees a good looking guy in speedos, she may act on impulse and want to be with him because of what she sees. To add, a guy seeing a girl in a tiny thong or bikini may get worked up and try to get with her because of what he is seeing....

One last point, the though that "Speedos a gateway to gay" is just an awful no matter how you slice it. Unlike a drug that chemically alters your brain and can be a 'gateway' to something else, wearing speedos doesn't change the way you are wired and make you one way or another.... IMHO

[pburks]

As a gay guy I can definitely say that a type of clothing does not make someone gay. That being said and I think what Dave is really trying to express is that speedos CAN be more of a catalyst to help bring out peoples inner feelings. It can be seeing a hot guy in a speedo that first sparks a guys attraction to other men but ultimately they already have the attraction.

Part of my personal self discovery of my sexuality had a lot to do with pictures of guys in speedos. But ultimately its the guy I'm attracted to the speedo is just icing on the cake so to speak

[swimtimx]

I'm not sure what Dave means by "gateway to gay" .. if he means are speedos and minimal suits associated with gay guys, then to an extent this is true at the moment in the US and parts of Europe. But it certainly was NOT so a few years back when str8 guys would wear far more minimal styles than even many gay guys would risk today (this is still true is parts of Europe today). Also, of course, it's certainly NOT the case in competitive swimming and/or diving where shorts are a major hinderance to performance (when I compete, like many others, I wear a speedo one size too small).

My opinion is that guys, str8 or gay, look better in speedos than shorts that are so baggy they could be used as an emergency tent for two. I also suspect that many guys WOULD wear speedos except that are too shy to, so this is less a sexuality thing and more a social acceptance thing .. which is a shame imho.

[Norfcountryboy]

Nah, Speedo's make sexy men sexier and ordinary men sexy. So a lad in Speedo's will be more high-profile and attract a few admiring glances, possibly even from other men. However if the speedo dude is "Straight" he is not going to start feeling more attracted to other men or less attracted to women because he is wearing them.
Wearing Speedo's may make him feel sexier and he may be aware of and respond to his heightened visibility. It could be a form of what physcologists call "Peak Experience" where the person feels super confident and feels as if he is performing at his best. If it's a sexualised situation and there is a willing guy available he may want to get it on with that guy but if there was a willing girl wouldn't he knock boots with her first? There has to be something that would attract him to the guy in any circumstances, our dude wearing Speedo's is if anything just a de-inhibitor.
People may presume he's "Gay" because that is how part of the public group-thinks about men in Speedo's in some countries and I've noticed that men who dress sexy are often presumed to be "Gay" but that is another issue.

[Red^^Speedo]

I don't think they are a gateway to gay but they are a gateway to credit card meltdown.

[Snowbrief]

Nah, Speedo's make sexy men sexier and ordinary men sexy. So a lad in Speedo's will be more high-profile and attract a few admiring glances, possibly even from other men.

A piece of clothing does not turn a person to lust to whom they are sexually attracted too, it only turns them to look at those they feel more attacked to. Sadly, the speedo has taken a bad rap as doing so for the guys; guys, not gays.

[shadowmn]

No. Speedos are clothing and are not associated with sexual orientation. Straight and gay men enjoy them equally, but gay men are usually the ones to showcase them more often for obvious reasons. For me, speedos make me feel sexy in my own way, masculine, and free to enjoy the independence of my being myself. I also like the way that I can show a little of what makes me a man which in contrast is the same as a woman showing off her boobs which I have no problem with.

[swimtimx]

Great sexy suit Tim. Look good in it

Well thank you

[ChicagoDan]

I think the big reason they are considered gay is because of things like gay pride parades where so many gay men are wearing them as a fetishist type thing. Maybe that's just my opinion, I don't know. I wear them for the comfort, and I think I still look decent in them. All that being said, I have always enjoyed playing around with guys while we are wearing speedos.

[Thom]

When I was a kid, the Boy Scout catalog had speedos for sale, and I remember thinking they were hot. Probably required gear for swimming classes at Boy Scout camp. Just a guess, because I never went to scout camp, although I was a scout. I just checked scoutstuff.org and under swimwear it says, "There are no products matching the selection." I also remember a day hike to the top of a ridge where the troop leader stripped down to his tighty whitey briefs to cool off. Today he'd be arrested. I know this is off-topic, but it made me think back.

[electric2010]

Going to stay off topic for a moment, I'm sure a speedo would be considered too revealing for the BSA. And you are correct, a scoutmaster stripping down to his briefs would stand a good chance of getting arrested...

[Thom]

Going to stay off topic for a moment, I'm sure a speedo would be considered too revealing for the BSA. And you are correct, a scoutmaster stripping down to his briefs would stand a good chance of getting arrested...

In a sense it's on-topic because the BSA has had hang-ups about anything gay, and today, they likely would think that speedos are a step on the road to perversion. But they used to sell them. And I swear nobody thought anything about it. I even showed up at the local Y pool in a cool blue and white speedo splice, and nobody cared, but this was in the nineties.

[speedoboi]

Going to stay off topic for a moment, I'm sure a speedo would be considered too revealing for the BSA. And you are correct, a scoutmaster stripping down to his briefs would stand a good chance of getting arrested...

In a sense it's on-topic because the BSA has had hang-ups about anything gay, and today, they likely would think that speedos are a step on the road to perversion. But they used to sell them. And I swear nobody thought anything about it. I even showed up at the local Y pool in a cool blue and white speedo splice, and nobody cared, but this was in the nineties.

Would it seriously be a problem if you did that today?

[Thom]

Would it seriously be a problem if you did that today?

Don't know. It was in a conservative city in Massachusetts, and I don't live there anymore.