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Swimming Lessons for Adults?

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by losingandbuilding » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:23 pm

Speedoaddict wrote:
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Guys, thanks so much for all of the info and advice so far - I really appreciate it! Keep it coming if you think of anything else related to this, or even lap-swimming in general. Feel free to post here or send me a message - this is all pretty new to me, so the more info, the better!
Hi losingandbuilding,

Did you sort any swimming lessons out?

Nice to hear from you. It's been a while.
Hey man! I haven't been on here for awhile, so sorry for not getting back to you before now. No, unfortunately I haven't done anything with the swimming lessons. I honestly haven't been working out much at all the past few months - gotta get back on it. Thanks so much for asking though!
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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by speedobillyuk » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:04 am

Place where I swim does adult swimming lessons - and they take all levels, from non swimmers up to those trying to improve their stroke. THE most important thing is to get a good instructor, and be in a group with similar abilities and aims - otherwise it may feel a complete waste of time. Getting a good instructor is the real key - knowing how to do something isn't the same as being able to teach it. You'll know if you've got a good instructor - they'll spend time with you and help you focus on your weakest areas with different ideas until you find what works for you. Finding a good instructor is probably harder than learning to swim - there's a lot of mediocrity out there. Older instructors, with more experience of teaching are probably better than college kids earning a few extra bucks.
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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by swimmy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 am

My lessons are free at 930 every evening. I just give some tips and see what happens, make adjustments and corrections, show drills to improve technique and break bad habits. The trick is to not make too many changes at once, like tuning a race car. Put fins on the feet to cause speed to come up and give the learner a sense of hydrodynamics. I always give a learner something to think about overnight too, like the body line and shoulder rotation. As soon as a swimmer can go two lengths I teach the flip turn and demand ONLY flip turns from that day on. I've taught a few people to swim from nothing, but taught LOTS of "barely swimmers" to be very confident and even competitive. I have a student now, that as I explain, when I first saw him swim I had to keep draining the tears from my goggles, it hurt to watch him so bad. You should see him go after two months... and yes I even taught him to wear the proper uniform of the actual swimmer. Had to loan him a spare Endurance to get the point across but he had his own new one the next day.

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by BJE » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:33 pm

I posted this in the pool etiquette thread as well because it fits both topics.

I’ve been swimming most of my life but I only had swimming lessons as a kid and I only learned “freestyle” and back stroke. My swimming ability peaked in my thirties. I would generally swim a mile non stop. Then I went probably ten years without swimming much. I’ve been getting back into it in the last few years. Last spring I took an adult swim conditioning class at my fitness club. Most of those there were training for triathlon but there were a few very poor swimmers. While I didn’t make a fool of myself, I found it pretty hard to keep up. We would swim ten laps for a warm up and ten laps for a cool down. In between we did various drills. I did my best but to me ten laps is a workout not a warm up.

One of my biggest problems is that if I push off hard from the end or kick hard my feet cramp up and I have to stop and massage my feet and try to get rid of the muscle spasm.

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Speedoaddict » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:31 am

I had some lessons last year to try and get my breathing sorted on free style, I was ok with my free style form but the instructor said that the breathing just takes practice. I have got to get used to breathing correctly. Haven't been swimming since the lessons due to a bad back.
But it is something I want to get back into. Might try and learn breast stroke.
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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Latestarter » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:36 am

swimmy wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 am
My lessons are free at 930 every evening. I just give some tips and see what happens, make adjustments and corrections, show drills to improve technique and break bad habits. The trick is to not make too many changes at once, like tuning a race car. Put fins on the feet to cause speed to come up and give the learner a sense of hydrodynamics. I always give a learner something to think about overnight too, like the body line and shoulder rotation. As soon as a swimmer can go two lengths I teach the flip turn and demand ONLY flip turns from that day on. I've taught a few people to swim from nothing, but taught LOTS of "barely swimmers" to be very confident and even competitive. I have a student now, that as I explain, when I first saw him swim I had to keep draining the tears from my goggles, it hurt to watch him so bad. You should see him go after two months... and yes I even taught him to wear the proper uniform of the actual swimmer. Had to loan him a spare Endurance to get the point across but he had his own new one the next day.
Just been rereading this thread looking to improve my swimming. Just noticed that you said you gave free swimming lessons every night. That’s a really decent thing to do.
3 years ago I couldn’t do more than a couple of lengths freestyle now after a lot of practice I can swim for miles but still can’t maintain anything faster than 2:15 for more than a few lengths.

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Latestarter » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:50 am

Think my problems are similar Mitch. I’m a decent runner for my age but my legs do more to hinder than help in the pool. I can’t manage a breadth without arms

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Speedoaddict » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:28 am

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by swimmy » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Latestarter the trick is to swim a prescribed workout. A certain distance with a time goal and a rest and then go again. The time plus the rest is the sendoff interval. For instance a workout I swim often is 10x100@3:00. That is ten 100 yard swims and I leave for another every three minutes. So if I swim it in 1:15 I have a 1:45 rest before the next. I monitor heart rate with my Tomtom to see how hard I'm working to do it.
This is how you get faster. When you know what the times are you can alter them in the next workout. Try a 2:50 sendoff and see if you can do it. Maintain that pace though, that 1:15 I do is for all ten 100s.
Its all about the distance, the pace, and the clock. The important thing is to finish the workout, don't quit at number six because you think you're dying. If you're dying, slow down a bit, but do the same time for all ten 100's.
It's more fun to have someone do it with you, it becomes a challenge between the two of you to work harder.
Mitch if your kick doesn't work, you're doing it wrong. You gotta have the kick right before you can swim. Take a swim class!
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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Latestarter » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:04 am

Swimmy thanks very much for that. I’m very conscious that I train properly to run but in the pool I just plow up and down for 50 lengths. There seem to be so many variables kick, breathing catch etc that is sometimes hard to know where to start. I have a triathlon swim in couple of months. 1500m open water which I should manage in just over 30 mins depending on sea conditions but I would like to be faster than that. Like Mitch my kick isn’t helping me and it’s quite noticeable that I do better in open water because of the extra leg bouyancy in a wetsuit Sea temps rarely above the midterms in summer here

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by willycum » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:18 am

I never learnt to swim at school but a friend forced me to learn after I left and I was so grateful. I am sure there are swim sessions for older people to learn to swim in most places - try looking on the internet for local ones.
As for speedos I love to swim wearing them and would hate to try swimming in baggy shorts which also take ages to dry out. Speedos feel much sleeker and sexier and on the beach are so much better than shorts to dry out while still wearing them.
Lets start a revolution and bring back speedos in public - women can show off their body parts in skimpy swimwear so whats wrong with men wearing skimpy swimwear which may happen to show a bulge which is just a part of the human anatomy.
They are sexier too!!!!

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by BJE » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:17 pm

Here is a photo of me after an adult swim class last week.
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The suit is a Budgy Smuggler size 30.

Here is a link to a recording of one of my laps.

https://youtu.be/oGjM_CLSJIE

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by BJE » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:16 am

Mitch wrote:
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Nice is that you the in the video
Yes

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by SpeedoUSA » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:46 am

BJE wrote:Here is a photo of me after an adult swim class last week.
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The suit is a Budgy Smuggler size 30.

Here is a link to a recording of one of my laps.

https://youtu.be/oGjM_CLSJIE
BJE, is that also you in the next pic? Great looking suit! What is it?


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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by BJE » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:05 am

The suit is a Budgy Smuggler Sailor Stripes size 30.

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by SpeedoUSA » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:09 am

BJE wrote:The suit is a Budgy Smuggler Sailor Stripes size 30.
Hmmmm Thought Buffy’s were large sided? Those look great!
I see the lave to the left has shorts on. Any other speedo wears in the pool?
Swim every day? You must with a core like yours.


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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by Latestarter » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:22 am

Looking good BJE

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

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SpeedoUSA wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:09 am
BJE wrote:The suit is a Budgy Smuggler Sailor Stripes size 30.
Hmmmm Thought Buffy’s were large sided? Those look great!
I see the lave to the left has shorts on. Any other speedo wears in the pool?
Swim every day? You must with a core like yours.


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I’ve only ever seen one other man besides me wearing a speedo at my athletic club. He was older than me. All the “serious” swimmers wear jammers. I’m thinking most of them wish they had the nerve to wear a speedo. The rest just wear big boxy shorts.

The Budgy Smugglers have good side width but they come up higher in the front and I would like.

I don’t swim every day but I would like to.

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

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Latestarter wrote:
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Looking good BJE
Thank you

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Re: Swimming Lessons for Adults?

Post by BJE » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:18 am

Mitch wrote:
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Awesome
Thank you

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