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Re: The Loss Of...

Post by Mazda3mps » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:03 pm

SpeedoSimone wrote:
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speedobillyuk wrote:When I strip off I sometimes notice other guys following my example - maybe they just don't want to be the only one in there naked.
Same here! I guess nobody wants to be the first to drop their pants!

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Post by Thom » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:06 pm

chrsound9 wrote:
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Alright guys,...

Has anyone showered in one lately and/or come across them while traveling or at home?

I can’t seem to find any outside of a bathhouse type place here in the Washington DC area!


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The Fort Lauderdale Aquatic Center where I used to swim occasionally (it's an hour from where I work now) has a shower room with multiple shower heads. Since these were common when I was in school (just after the American Civil War) I'm used to showering buck naked. A lot of guys seem to just rinse off wearing their suit.

I have a membership at a national chain fitness center. They have individual showers.
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Post by redheaded_aquaman » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:43 pm

SpeedoSimone wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:12 am
Here in Germany most showers will be open rooms with 4-5 shower heads on each side of the wall. Sometimes you will find one "private shower" which is basically the last shower head of the room, next to a corner with a separator wall for some privacy. I have the feeling that 80% of the people in get fully naked while the rest shower with their swimsuit on. Being naked is also not a reason to stop socializing. Friends who go do sports together, later shower together naked while continuing with their casual conversation. And if the conversation is about football, everyone else in the shower room will join in.

Most people don't mind showering nude in public showers here in Germany, as nudity is considered normal. The mentality is "everyone has a penis or a vagina, you don't have to be embarrassed about it". I really love this uncomplicated way of life.
I wish more people were less uptight about being naked. As the Germans seem to have figured out, we have the same equipment, why be so embarrassed about it. Of course this is probably my German genes coming through on this but it makes perfect sense.

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Post by redheaded_aquaman » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:44 pm

The outdoor showers in the Bathhouses at Barton Springs Pool and Deep Eddy here in Austin are great and rare.

They are basically column showers, like what I remember from swimming on a team in high school. That people get so bent out of shape of being seen naked really is a shame. Instead we have somehow managed to make "nakedness" shameful.

It amazes me the prudish attitudes at the gym with how guys are so afraid to dare be seen naked and do the ridiculous towel dance in getting undressed. I quietly chuckle and realize that they have been brainwashed into feeling insecure about the fact that they are human and have the same equipment as everyone else in the locker room. Some guys are bigger, some smaller . . . why does it matter?

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Post by rozelle » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:03 am

the local indoor pool here in Columbus has a commuinal shower. not a big fan of it mainly because I come from a country where everyone is very modest and we always have walls and privacy when showering but every time I go to that pool I shower naked in the communal shower. I'm always insecure about it so I always try to shower quick lol. for me it's more of a cultural thing.

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Post by Norfcountryboy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:42 am

In England it depends on the age of the pool. My partners gym has communal showers that's a very modern building and is the exception. Most of the newish pools seem to have communal male/female changing facilities [Not as hot as it sounds everyone gets a little cabin] and poolside showers where you obviously cannot do naked. My own gym has private shower cabins they'e great for a bit of sneaky self-abuse but I miss the all male no-secrets-here environment of open showers. Ponds Forge in Sheffield is the only modernish pool I can think of that has communal showers in the male locker room but that must be over 25 years old [Think it was built for the 1992 World Student Games, Speedobillyuk may be able to confirm] and I guess the swimming pool design industry would no longer consider this to be part of the latest generation of pool
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Post by speedobillyuk » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:12 pm

Ponds Forge has undergone a number of refurbs over the last 10 years, but the open communal showers in the main pool changing rooms remain much as before. There are 5 sets of changing rooms altogether in this place (it's massive). Three sets have open communal showers, one set have shower cubicles with no doors or curtains, and another set have proper shower cubicles with doors. So overall, the communal ones win out. Given the heavy use this place gets I can't imagine cubicle doors lasting long... The recent trend towards "changing village", ie single male/female changing area with cubicles and showers where you can't strip off strikes me as poorly thought out (and therefore perfectly suited to the UK) - for hygene reasons everyone should shower properly before swimming, and shower properly afterwards, but it's not possible in a "changing village". Many people don't bother with showers either before or after swimming - which speaks volumes in itself...
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Post by Thom » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:28 am

speedobillyuk wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:12 pm
Many people don't bother with showers either before or after swimming - which speaks volumes in itself...
I'm one of the few people who does here in the U.S., at least where I swim, even though all the signs posting the pool regs say you're supposed to. As you say, it speaks volumes.

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Post by Thom » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:02 am

rozelle wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:03 am
the local indoor pool here in Columbus has a commuinal shower. not a big fan of it mainly because I come from a country where everyone is very modest and we always have walls and privacy when showering but every time I go to that pool I shower naked in the communal shower. I'm always insecure about it so I always try to shower quick lol. for me it's more of a cultural thing.
I think the cultural norms are shifting to greater privacy in the U.S. I went to a college where, at the time, the freshman dorms had communal showers. But those buildings were totally renovated into suites a few years ago, and they have individual showers as part of the suite. They're enclosed and tiled, floor to ceiling and have recessed lighting. The entry has a shower curtain that's drawn across. They're like a little room and have a teak bench and hooks for towels and clothing. The showers for men at the university pool are still communal. That was built about thirty years ago. Not sure how the women's locker rooms are configured.

As American homes/condominiums have got bigger, each bedroom tends to have its own bathroom, so people are accustomed to greater privacy. I grew up in a house with two bathrooms, but they were off of a hall and not connected directly to any of the bedrooms. Gee, this sounds like social psychology for architects.
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Post by Speedoaddict » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:06 am

Here in the uk my gym that I go to occasionally has communal showers on the first and second floor. The ground floor has cubicals and the communal showers you keep you swimwear on because everyone and I mean everyone can see you shower.
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Post by clem » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:51 am

As local pools, gyms, ymcas, etc. get refurbished there is definitely a trend toward private stalls, often at the cost of usable area. Meh. If anything it keeps unruly kids more out of sight, if not out of earshot....

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Post by Norfcountryboy » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:11 am

speedobillyuk wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:12 pm
The recent trend towards "changing village", ie single male/female changing area with cubicles and showers where you can't strip off strikes me as poorly thought out (and therefore perfectly suited to the UK) - for hygene reasons everyone should shower properly before swimming, and shower properly afterwards, but it's not possible in a "changing village". Many people don't bother with showers either before or after swimming - which speaks volumes in itself...
Yes the changing village...

I'm in rebellion against the "Changing village" at one of my regular pools. When I get there I grab a locker, get my shirt and jacket off and get them in there, then change into my Speedo's in a cubicle. When I've finished swimming and showering I get my jeans out of my locker, change into them in the cubicle then wander back and get my socks and shoes, dry and get them on then back one more time to collect my shirt and jacket. That way I don't have my hands full with stuff and the world- male and female- gets to see me in jeans and bare chest [Which is how I think I look best] three times and I've made my point.

I'm sure the public justification for these will be that it's a "Gender-neutral" space, so they're ok for someone who's trans or ambiguous gender. That's cool but I bet the board room justification is no duplication of facilities and no duplication of space "Let's just cram the fuckers in and save money!" Ideally there should be a male locker room, a female one and a changing village.
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Post by BJE » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:34 pm

The athletic club where I work out and swim has private showers but a lot of guys, including myself, walk naked between the lockers and showers.

The municipal swimming pool were I used to swim has gang showers and the lap swimmers would shower naked. However the last time I went there after not having been there for a while they had put signs in the showers and locker room saying “No Public Nudity”. That’s a pretty stupid policy to have in a shower and dressing room as I see it. I suspect the mother of some boy freaked out at the thought of her son seeing a naked man.

My current gym has adult only (age 16 and up) locker rooms with separate children only and family locker rooms. I guess that protects boys from being traumatized by seeing naked men. However it probably has more to do with protecting the club from sexual abuse lawsuits.

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Post by blueflinch » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:55 pm

BJE wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:34 pm
The athletic club where I work out and swim has private showers but a lot of guys, including myself, walk naked between the lockers and showers.

The municipal swimming pool were I used to swim has gang showers and the lap swimmers would shower naked. However the last time I went there after not having been there for a while they had put signs in the showers and locker room saying “No Public Nudity”. That’s a pretty stupid policy to have in a shower and dressing room as I see it. I suspect the mother of some boy freaked out at the thought of her son seeing a naked man.

My current gym has adult only (age 16 and up) locker rooms with separate children only and family locker rooms. I guess that protects boys from being traumatized by seeing naked men. However it probably has more to do with protecting the club from sexual abuse lawsuits.
"No public nudity" is pretty dumb in a shower/dressing room area, as being nude - albeit briefly - is quite legitimate when getting changed.

When I was ten, I think I was a wee bit traumatised by the sight of a naked man, but it was how fat and hairy he was, NOT his gender or genitals. I don't think I even noticed his genitals. I was just shocked at how hairy some adult men are!!! :lol:

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Post by Norfcountryboy » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:51 am

When I was leaving the pool the other day I saw another guy rebelling against the "changing village" arrangements. He was striding down the corridor passed all the high maintenance chicks doing their hair, with his towel round his shoulders wearing just a pair of tight white boxer briefs. I guessed these were definitely his underwear because they looked like it and he usually swims in black jammers. I thought it was a really cool kind of "Fuck you" and a real ego trip parading passed all the girls in his undies. I made a mental note to copy his example.
So the next day I made sure I had my best black square legged boxers to change into. After the pool I showered off in one of their private cubicles, part dried, put my boxers on and strode down to my locker, carrying my dripping Speedo's in my hand. There was no-one-the-fuck-there though, this dude got an audience of totty, no one got to see me in my skiddies!
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Post by Norfcountryboy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:32 am

I've worn my undies a few more times whilst strolling through the mixed locker area. Once my white lycra kiniki tanga's which are so obviously not swimwear and more recently an unbranded lycra thong. I wore that with an unbuttoned shirt over the top so that the hem hung at the back so it looked like bare arse cheeks but you couldn't be sure. When I stepped out of my cubicle to get some more of my stuff from my locker there was an older woman there drying her hair. She gave me a very direct look, I dunno if she was disaproving or checking me out she was that age where her face wasn't readable. When I got back to my cubicle I could hear her drying her hair for ages, was she waiting for another sighting?
Meanwhile I've noticed other guys gently fucking with the system too. First up there are a lot of guys getting their dicks out in the mixed communal showers and discretley washing out their foreskins. Backs to the room for discretion obviously. Doubt any of them would do it if there was a chick in the shower but they seem unfazed by laundering their dongs when there's another guy there. All the lads I've noticed doing this are speedo-men, suggesting it's a cockfidence thing.
Another time a group of lads in one evening in their boxers doing their hair outside their cubicles. I went for a piss and when I came out I caught sight a bare wet male arse disappearing round the corner to where the group were standing followed by cheers.
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Post by blueflinch » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:40 am

I think open-plan showers are becoming less common in favour of individual cubicles.

I have used open showers in the past (all-male) and enjoyed the camaraderie, although we all kept our swimmers on in this particular instance.

I would be inclined to be more modest if women were present - not wanting to give offence, etc.

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Post by Thom » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:24 am

The only open shower I've used recently was when I attended an alumni event and used the university pool at my college in the northeast. The pool is probably 30 years old. Renovated 15 years ago--better lighting, new tile, etc., but no change in the shower configuration. Here in SoFL the health clubs I've use all have individual showers. The exception is the Fort Lauderdale Aquatic Center; that has open showers. I think the locker room there is forty years old or more. That place has been there a LONG time. The pools were renovated 20 years ago. For peeps going to Fort Lauderdale, the Aquatic Center has long course and short course pools, Olympic and collegiate, open on alternate days--or they used to be. They also have a third pool for diving only. The place is huge. I live too far away to visit regularly.
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Post by frankjath » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:15 pm

It’s not a gym, the Korean spa has showers along the wall. When you arrive you put all your clothes in a locker and everyone enters the shower area naked. You are required to shower before entering the jacuzzi and saunas.

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Post by Speedoaddict » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:42 pm

The gym I used to go to has separate male and female changing rooms on the 1st and 2nd floor. You can see guys showering in their underwear. Weird I know. The ground floor has changing cubicles and shower cubicles in the changing area just off from the pool. You have to be 16yrs or older to use the gym. I also noticed people wearing underwear in the sauna instead of swimwear. There were a few other disgusting things going on which I won’t to go into on the forum. Let’s say I am no longer a member of the gym.
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